Dell XPS 15 9570 - LA-G341P - Power cycling after liquid damage and blown ISL88738

it-solve

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Hi Guys, I am sorry if non-apple posts are not allowed.

I am dealing with this LA-G341P, which had heavy liquid damage around the Audio board, Battery charging circuit. I went and cleaned liquid areas and left the audio board disconnected.

It had blown PQ1900/02/3 as well as a trace on PU1900. I replaced all 4, and now it turns on and switches off. With a connected battery, it turns on and stays on for a while, even loading the system, then cuts off suddenly.
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Charger only - without a battery, the PQ201/PD200 area gets hot. I can see the chipset and CPU also warm up for a second trying to pull up to 2A, then cust off. The Realtek chip gets up to 50*C before the board switches off. I have removed it to ensure no internal short is causing the fault, but it's the same. The customer already waited a month for ISL and Mosfets, wont be able to wait another month for Audio IC
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With only the battery connected, it turns on and off and cycles, although the Audio still heats up.
I have removed the Audio IC again and with battery only turns on for a while and cuts off again. Battery indicator LEDs show that it's empty, though. That may explain cutting down.
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With Battery and Charger - It turns on and stays on for couple minutes and I get these high spikes of 0.9 - 4A - 0.9A, similiar to a battery charging spikes and perhaps detects that the battery is also faulty. I can see that PQ1905 gets sizzling hot to 60*C and makes sizzling sound with alchochol on it. That whole PQ1905/200/208 area gets boiling on short second spikes.

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Dell XPS 15 9570 LA-G341P Schematic and Boardview here


All that said, is there a way to test further without ordering a new battery and audio chip? Just cant hold the customer off for another month.

Thanks
 

2informaticos

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Start checking resistance between pins 1/2 and 14/15 of PU1900.

What is B+ voltage?
Measure with charger only, battery only and also charger and battery connected.
 

it-solve

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PU1900
1-2 - 2.37Ohm
14-15 - 4.65Ohm

It cycles on each of these every sec, so I added both measures before and during the cycle
Charger Only - B+ 13.56V/0A - 13.6V/1.4A
Battery Only - B+ 9.5V - 8.3V
Charger & Battery - B+ 13.34V/1.5A - 11.5/4.8A
 
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2informaticos

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Staff member
You may have bad battery, but machine should work correctly without battery.

There must be something else affected by corrosion, on the charger circuit.
+SDC_IN is stable?
PQ1900-04 should be good, if you get 13.5V aprox.
However check all theyr traces and related components.
 

it-solve

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+SDC_IN - 18.8V while off 18.4V while on without battery

PQ1900-04 Fluctuates 14.7 - 15.1 without battery and not turning on while I am measuring it
If I measure after it turns on 18.6V

Couple 2R2 looks bit corroded, but they all measure fine including their traces
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Seems something is drawing to much current and causing the

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Something on VBUS_DC_SS seems to pull so much current that causes PQ208 to glow to 60*
Same with DC_IN_SS for PQ200

But seems like only the chipset is heating, it seems to work on a battery and charger for awhile and I saw Dell logo and startup screen. SHould not be busted chipset
 
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