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820-02100 low p3v8_aon

Outofwhack

Outofwhack

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Lady's a2485 just stopped.
No visible liquid damage to board
5volts 20mA not connected to battery, trackpad
ppbus_aon 12.3v
pp3v8_aon oscillating 2.5v to 3.4 avg 3.2v (low)
I noticed U5700 has an erratic input voltage pp5v_s2_main 0.6v to 5v
p5vs2tps_pwr_en 0.2v but Im going around in circles thinking this could be caused by low pp3v8_aon

Ive replaced U5700, no change.

Im lost
 
2informaticos

2informaticos

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Check diode mode to ground on all secondary power rails.
Pay atention to SSD power.
Compare readings with good board, or reference table.
 
Outofwhack

Outofwhack

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I do happen to have another non-working board - measurements from this in brackets at end of line

pp5v_s2. 0.3v close to OBdata 0.39v
pp1v2_s2 0.2v close to OBdata 0.26v
pp1v8_s2 0.22v close to OBdata 0.255v
pp1v8_aon 0.4v close to OBdata 0.44
pp3v3_s2 0.37v close to OBdata 0.4v
pp2v5_nand0 0.265v similar to OBdata 0.302v
p1v2_lx0_nand0 0.295v close to OBdata 0.305v (0.256)
p0v9_lx0_nand0 0.124v significant less than OBdata 0.345v (0.167v)
p0v9_lx1_nand0 0.124v significant less than OBdata 0.345v (0.167v)
ppvin_p3v8nand0 0.3v significantly more than OBdata 0.161v (0.189)

Are any of the last 4 rows enough to suggest anything?
 
2informaticos

2informaticos

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Sudden death is many times caused by failed NANDs; even no short detected.
If CPU can't access its dedicated partition on SSD, it can fully boot.
 
Outofwhack

Outofwhack

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I tried that. After turning off pp2v5_nand0 the other [20v capable] non-working board still got to 20v.
So I suspect this would indicate that reading a NAND partition is not required before going to 20v.

Can any other area explain pp3v8_aon oscillating 2.5v to 3.4 avg 3.2v?
 
2informaticos

2informaticos

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I had one A2141 switching to 20V with shorted SSD (2V5_NAND), but I was not sure about M1 machines.

Possibly problem with a secondary power supply.
You should check all of them in diode mode; including master/slave rails.
 
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