Chasing down a 100Ω short to ground in 820-01521-A

sekidata

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This 820-01521 2019 Air board had liquid damage in several places, was missing PPBUS, and had shorts on both CD3215s. I replaced all corroded components I could find, including both CD3215s. Now I'm left with PP5V_G3S which shows 80-100 Ω to ground (0.07 in reverse diode mode). No shorts on any other rail I could find.

I already lifted every chip powered by PP5V_G3S but haven't found the culprit for the short. I can't inject 5V into 100 Ω (not enough current flow). How can I find the short?
 

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Did you check when lifted U3100/200 chips?
Tested disconnecting fan?

Removed all L6703, R7100, U7210/30/90, U7410/30, R8103/44/47, R8444/45, U8500, L8570?
If you lift L7670, the low value remains on pad 1 for sure?
 

sekidata

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Yes, I have both CD3215s off the board again.
Yes, when I lift L7670, the short is on pad 1 but not on pad 2.
Yes, I tried lifting all resistors and inductors (one by one) that connect from PP5V_G3S to subnets: L8570, L6703, R7100, R8103, R8144, R8147, R8444, and R8445.
And I lifted U7210/30/90, U7410/30, U8500, and U7650.
 

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Then you have problems with a capacitor connected on that line.
You can try applying 5V there: the culprit can start droping its resistance under voltage.
IR camera is recommended in such case.
 

sekidata

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No thermal imaging here, sorry.

I just replaced U8110 and my short changed from 100 to 400 Ω. Doesn't make a lot of sense to me. Could there be a short inside the board that reacts to the temperature changes during soldering?
 

sekidata

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I just placed all components back on the board and it looks like PP5V_G3S is at 5.1V, even with the short. No startup, though.
 

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That is not really a short; but not expected value there however.

So you get stable 5V_G3S now?
Tested DFU revive?
 

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Can you post picture of the screenshot?

3V3_G3S and 1V8_G3S are good too?
Any voltage on SSD power rails?

The data is probably lost, ask the client if accept DFU restore.
BTW, keep battery connected, when try DFU.
 

sekidata

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Data is irrelevant so I did a Restore. Note that I had a hard time getting the machine into DFU mode, so I used a blank SoC ROM chip to force DFU.

I have:
PP3V3_G3S: 3.2V
PP1V8_G3S: 1.8V
PP0V9_SSD: 0.9V
PP1V8_SSD: 1.8V
PP2V7_NAND: 2.5V
 

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sekidata

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Ok, with all peripherals connected, the DFU Restore went through to the padlock. But no video on the target machine. No startup. Assume bad CPU?
 

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Do you get any voltage later than G3S state?

Compare diode mode readings on thebig coils with good board.
Also test the board disconnecting audio flex.
 
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