820-00850 won't work inside case? Weird issue

Revive

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I'm having a super weird issue with an 820-00850 A1989, that pulls 20v .01 amps.
The board is very clean, and when I remove it from case it pulls 20V .60 amps no problem.
When I put the logic board back in the case the problem instantly returns down to .01 amp, this is with nothing plugged in except the USB-C jacks.
I'm suspecting it may have something to do with the io jacks ribbon crimping causing an issue, but Ive replaced them with known good ones, is possible this particular board is more sensitive to the ribbon being crimped somehow?
I get identical results testing from the left or right side
Is there something stupid I'm missing here? Anyone ever have a problem like this?

.01 amps


.60 amps
 
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2informaticos

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Board turns on if you remove it again from the case?
Check each USB-C port connecting in both directions.
 

Revive

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Yes outside the case all 8 positions of the USB-C connections work. When I put it in the case and connect only the ports it stays at .01amp.
I can actually lift it out of the case and watch the change happen live.
I no longer suspect the crimping because it happens with a loose port laying flat connected.
I took a couple videos but cant upload MOV's to the Forum, is there a video format that is acceptable?
 

2informaticos

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Upload somewhere else and post the link only.

Connect only one side USB ports; J3300, or JB500, one by one.
Try to see if you can locate the issue on just one side.
 

Revive

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It seems to happen the same on all the ports, they all hold 20V steady but the amps drop to almost 0 when it goes in the case, I know it sounds super weird.
See attached videos, the first two you see it going from .01 amps to .40 after pulling from case, the last one you see it going .39 amps down to .01 when putting back in the case.

https://imgur.com/a/7TLIIzc
 

2informaticos

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Could be some problem with the hall sensors.
Put it in case with LCD panel open.
Check all SMC_LID signals.
 

Revive

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Yes, opening the lid works in restoring the amps!
So it seems when SMC_LID is low something is happening, is it possible PP1V8 is being shorted in J4801 or J4800 only when low, or more likely something wrong with U3900?
Am I the only one who hates replacing hall sensors.
 

2informaticos

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When lid is open, board works?
Hall sensor should be disabled then.
Maybe only one is bad and you can let it out.
 

Revive

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Yes when lid is open the board works, but when lid is closed it wont charge at all (.01 amps)
I've replaced both hall sensors one at a time and observed, everything was the same back to square one.
Going down the lid sensor line I replaced U4802 and the caps around it, now the board pulls 20v .08 amps (where as it used to pul .60 amps out of case) which doesn't make any sense, none of this makes sense.
The thermal camera indicates heat under the U3900, so maybe the T2 chip is causing problems, possibly PP1v8_awake?
Probably going to give up on this one
 
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