Why everybody can see the forum now?

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VirtualLife

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I was not logged in and found out that i can see all the forums topics and i even could click and read them. Whats up? Did you Louis change it that everybody can come and read the topics? Or is there a problem with your forum.
 

larossmann

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It's read-only if not logged in, only lets you post if you're a paid member. Some people suggested this and we'll see if it works out well or becomes a nightmare.
 

VirtualLife

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Its quite good :D I think many people will stop asking question about repairing and it will draw more people here to ask questions because of how successful this has been to you and for us of course. :)
 

oneoone

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Hey Louis I want to (and will continue to) support you, but I have no need to continue with the membership I pay for any more.

Perhaps if you try experimenting with having JUST the board repair forum visible and read only for non members and have the other boards hidden. I posted in the health and fitness board specifically because it was not visible to the public. I would also feel less comfortable posting in the business board now the it is visible to the public.
 

RavetcoFX

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I would argue that you already were sharing thing with the "public" before, it was just ~500 people instead of maybe thousands.
 

knightman

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just joined, was viewing the forum openly before (about an hour into it) and wanted to register just to get rid of the "register now" blob text thingy (god i hope that makes some sense)

been a longtime viewer of the channel, gonna jump into this and see where it takes me in life. Anyway, hello from chicago right now on vacation, drinking a beer, reading the forumz
 

bighead

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I don't think that this is a good idea. It's a paid membership forum. If anyone interested in the repair business pay the $30 as the others do.
This was started as a non public forum. Not asking those people who are subscribed members about this, it's just "not fair".
Those who wanted a read-only forum they asked this because they don't want to pay/support the forum, but they want access to it for free.
Those people already have your free youtube videos.

Worst thing , I didn't even know about this happened until I logged out and read this topic.

Edit: At least the "Board Repair Troubleshooting" section should be hidden from those who are not members.
 
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G.Beard

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I don't think that this is a good idea. It's a paid membership forum. If anyone interested in the repair business pay the $30 as the others do.
This was started as a non public forum. Not asking those people who are subscribed members about this, it's just "not fair".
Those who wanted a read-only forum they asked this because they don't want to pay/support the forum, but they want access to it for free.
Those people already have your free youtube videos.

Worst thing , I didn't even know about this happened until I logged out and read this topic.

Edit: At least the "Board Repair Troubleshooting" section should be hidden from those who are not members.

Quite simply, not everyone has the time to learn everything, so you pay someone else to do it while you do your trade. That's it's why we call it trading. I don't think you'll die of starvation because the forum is read only.

The internet is a resource for learning, exchanging information, collaboration, business opportunity, etc. It breaks the barriers of class divide and access to education. For too fucking long the rich had access to education the poor did not. So slightly less dramatic now... If people want to learn to fix a MacBook but they can't drop £25 to ask questions here. Let them read what they like for free! I hope it serves them well.
 

bighead

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Quite simply, not everyone has the time to learn everything, so you pay someone else to do it while you do your trade. That's it's why we call it trading. I don't think you'll die of starvation because the forum is read only.

The internet is a resource for learning, exchanging information, collaboration, business opportunity, etc. It breaks the barriers of class divide and access to education. For too fucking long the rich had access to education the poor did not. So slightly less dramatic now... If people want to learn to fix a MacBook but they can't drop £25 to ask questions here. Let them read what they like for free! I hope it serves them well.

I've no problem with those who are here to learn.
You pay the $30 which is nothing.

Simple question. Why are people here? They're here to learn and make money right?
They can't pay the $30/month? But they can buy equipment to fix electronic devices?
They earn money and they don't put anything back.

My problem is that with this most of the people wants to make money, but they don't put any effort into it.
They fail and they make the repair community shitty. Just look at the comment I received from Modder1.

If people want to learn to fix a MacBook but they can't drop £25 to ask questions here. Let them read what they like for free! I hope it serves them well.
This is really wrong. How do they want to fix anything if they don't have the resources for it?
 
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G.Beard

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I agree in so much that I see a large amount of machines that have had poor repair attempts because a lot of my work comes from recycling centres.
Let's not forget that everyone has to start somewhere and it's more about how people choose to practice.

There are cowboys in every industry, it just so happens that with ours, the disrepute is driven buy Apple themselves because they want to make more money and discredit our work in order to do so. This is the same Apple that will actively lie to a customer about the damage extent... I see it all the time on "Apple Genius" reports as I'm sure we all do.

I think that bringing the industry out of the shadows and into the public eye with all the reports of success on the forums will actually help us a lot. People can then see that we are successful and we are way in advance of the "Apple genius". If the average Joe sees this, it can only help.

I started with £75 a week to live on for everything!... I worked my backside off. I went without food and saved my money just to get tools to work with.
Today I can pull in a grand whilst I watch a film. I wake up in the morning to find I have made money while I sleep. I'm no more special or cleaver than anyone else. I just worked hard and I used the internet free content to get here. The entire ethos of the internet is free information regardless of what it has become!. If education were not freely available to me I would still be scraping around for scraps or stuck in a factory job money in money out loop.

It is a good thing to remember where we started and look at where we are now. If you are person that started with the money in the first place you should really check out the reality of other peoples lives before you form an opinion. Who would have thought that a few YouTube videos and some forum threads could change a mans life!

I can't tell you that you are wrong in your opinion and you sure as hell can't tell me that I'm wrong in mine.
 
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larossmann

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I can understand all points of view here.

For many beginners, just reading through the forum for free is far less helpful than paying $29 to get direct, quick assistance with your specific problem. People can read every thread here and if they're new to board repair still be confused and need guidance. The $29 is a fairly low fee to have one of us walk you through the issue, and I feel a very, very small percentage of the "cheapskates" will gain much from just skimming through the forum. It's not that the free info isn't useful, it's just that people that do not value this craft enough to spend $29 probably aren't going to put the effort in to make the most of the free information available. I think they'd get the same out of it as they got out of the videos.

The idea of opening the forum was to get it more exposure to people who can make use of this as a resource. The value is the ability to ask questions, not so much in the ability to read through someone else's. I understand that a few may wind up leaving as a result, and if that is the case, I will live with it, as I feel in the long term the results may benefit the community. I feel it may be a benefit both in terms of more people realizing this exists, and also someday some genius researcher stumbling upon it who knows more than us combined who can help us with some future problem.
 
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